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Poster: kimpunkrock Date: Dec 27, 2010 7:26pm
Forum: movies Subject: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

Sinister Cinema is going around removing films from archive.org claiming they own copyright. Sinister Cinema does not own copyright at all for any of its films. they are a company that sells DVD-R versions of movies.

I call attention to Hell Ship Mutiny that they had removed from the site. They are selling this as a dvd-r release, not even a real release. You can also buy it on Alpha DVD from oldies.com.

Sinister Cinema is scamming you when they sell these dvd-r's and claim copyright on here. I call attention to the mods and admins to not remove any movie that Sinister Cinema claims to own because they DO NOT OWN THESE TITLES SO DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING THEY ASK OR ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTING THEM ASKS YOU TOO!

THANK You!

we need to reign in these fake copyright holders because they want u to buy their scam products. Do not purchase anything that Sinister Cinema puts out. BUY THEM FROM OLDIES.COM AND ALPHA VIDEO!

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Poster: bigdaddyrico85 Date: Dec 29, 2010 10:24am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

Ok. I agree with you when it comes to titles thats in the public domain. It's true that when a title is in the PD, there is no copyright. I do a tv show when I play movies, cartoons, tv shows, etc. I have some clips on Youtube. Recently, I've been having a company claim copyright on Wild Guitar clips I have. So I started asking other people if they were having the same problem. I contacted Something Wierd Video and this was the response they gave.

"Hi. I am not familiar with that particular company, and haven't heard from them directly. They may have a right to claim that you're using their copy of Wild Guitar. Public domain refers to the original media of a particular piece of work. In this case, you would need a film print of Wild Guitar to claim any copyright. So if you happen to have used a dvd made from their film print, you would indeed violate their copyright."

So, basically if you were to use a dvd from another company, they could get you for copyright infringement. It sucks, I know. But most of these companies rip off from each other anyways, so the best thing to do is to use a print from a dvd that doesn't have any watermark or company logo on it.

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Poster: Mystic550 Date: Dec 29, 2010 11:44am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

That's incorrect just transferring a film to DVD is a mechanical process and is not copywrightable. If they add new content. menus, restoration, etc. they can copyright that. Search the forums for info by Video Cellar for more details.

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Poster: darkomaver Date: Jan 6, 2011 1:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

yea I agree. it's like with music. If I clean an old, scratched recording and publish a remastered version enahncing the audio etc. I can claim a new copyright on that, and you should use another old copy, not my newly restored one (why does Disney clean/modify/edit old movies otherwise, if not to move copyright forward?).

about Something Weird... do they mostly deal with public domain? I saw some of their sex flicks/sexploitation stuff and was wondering if it is all taken from the PD?

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Poster: bigdaddyrico85 Date: Jan 10, 2011 6:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

I meant something Wierd. Not Sinister.

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Poster: bigdaddyrico85 Date: Jan 10, 2011 6:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

Not all. Some are owned by Sinister. Others are leased from other companies.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Dec 27, 2010 8:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

Um, check this out:

http://www.archive.org/details/HELLSHIPMUTINY1957JRJonHallPeterLorreSaltytheChimp2

Doesn't look like anybody removed it.

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Poster: skybandit Date: Dec 27, 2010 10:24pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

Um, Cosmo, I click on your link and get "Item Not Found." Did a search for "Hell Ship Mutiny" and got "Item Not Found." The hostile lady above may have a point.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Dec 27, 2010 10:38pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

It's there:

http://www.archive.org/details/HELLSHIPMUTINY1957JRJonHallPeterLorreSaltytheChimp2

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Poster: skybandit Date: Dec 27, 2010 10:41pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

Bizarre. Now the link's working.

Never mind...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Dec 28, 2010 11:22am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Sinister Cinema FAKE copyright claims.

some locator fixes are in the process of being pushed out. so hopefully things will be working fast and smoothly again.